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2023.10.16

Behind the teamwork of 3D avatar brand YOYOGI MORI - Designing avatars a grandparent could gift to their grandchildren.

  • interview
  • BOOTH
  • creator interview
  • 3D & avatar making
In the growing world of virtual interactions, especially within the VR-centric social media space, BOOTH has seen a significant surge in 3D model-related products, particularly avatars. Today, these transactions total a whopping 2.4 billion JPY (approx. 16 million USD) per year.


YOYOGI MORI stands out in this area, an avatar clothing brand led by character designer Tenju. It focuses on storytelling and aims to convey a unique worldbuilding through its models and fashion.


What sets YOYOGI MORI apart is their production style. Normally, one creator handles every step: from the idea to the design, to the final modelーbut YOYOGI MORI flips the script. They have a team of creators who work together, often rotating members depending on the project.


Why does YOYOGI MORI choose to work as a team? Is this the secret sauce behind their consistently top-notch creations? We talked to them about why they chose this approach and how they keep the team spirit strong.

Index
  •  What is YOYOGI MORI?
  •  Why form a team for each avatar?
  •  How YOYOGI MORI picks creators
  •  What does YOYOGI MORI look for in potential collaborators?
  •  Behind the scenes with YOYOGI MORI's team
  •  Boosting team performance
  •  The unique challenges of working as a team
  •  The challenges of team building
  •  The key to completing projects as a team
  •  YOYOGI MORI's new venture
  •  Advice for upcoming creators

What is YOYOGI MORI?

── First off, can you tell us how YOYOGI MORI came to be?

Around 2019, I had this intuition that VR would become a major form of entertainment. I wanted to be a part of that wave and offer a one-of-a-kind experience. I imagined a world where the characters I created seemed to have a real life of their own, standing right before my eyes, and that vision was the catalyst for the birth of YOYOGI MORI.

── What principles guide you when it comes to managing the YOYOGI MORI team and the emerging brand?

A consistent theme across our brand is creating avatars that the average person can use with peace of mind.

── What do you mean by "with peace of mind"?

Unlike in games or videos, in VR-centric social media, the avatar essentially becomes an extension of you. We feel that users will have peace of mind if their avatar, which represents them, is handled with respect and not subject to any extreme or inappropriate content. Our Terms of Use and management style have this covered, aiming to give users a comfortable experience.

We're also prioritizing regular updates to keep the avatars relevant and usable.

Taking all this into account, our goal is to create avatars that even a grandparent would feel good about gifting to their grandchild.

── So, you want your brand's avatars to be suitable as gifts?

That's right. If we achieve this goal, it means we've addressed various avatar-related challenges, and it's a worthy goal to strive for.

Why form a team for each avatar?

Team credits for the MEME brand

── I've heard that you form a different team of creators for each avatar. Is that true?

Yes, that's right. YOYOGI MORI is made of several creators, so we assign specific members based on the project and form a production team.

── Why do you choose a team-based approach?

This production style offers significant advantages for the type of avatars we want to create.

For context, a 3D model is intricate, comprising various stages like modeling, setup, texturing, animation, and so on.

It's challenging for a single creator to excel in all these areas. Everyone has their strengths.

By having multiple people work on a single model, each person can focus on their forte. What one may find challenging, another team member can assist with.

── That sounds efficient!

Another aspect is maintaining a consistent brand image.
Let's say we are creating four avatars. It's easier to align the overall feel or worldbuilding of the avatars if a team of four creates them together, rather than if each person works on an avatar separately.

Also, it helps us look at things objectively.

Even skilled creators might overlook flaws in their own designs or modeling. Feedback from peers, essentially fellow creators at the same level, can often bring these to attention. This collaborative approach ultimately helps maximize everybody's potential.

── Could you explain why you change team members with each project?

It's because of each team member's different areas of expertise.
Every project comes with a clear vision for the avatar we want to create. Typically, we start with the creators who will be responsible for visual direction.
Yet, as mentioned earlier, avatar creation is intricate, and even our visual experts have their own strengths and limitations. Since each avatar has its unique flair and motion requirements, we assemble specialized teams based on whose strengths align well with the specific needs of each avatar and member compatibility.

How YOYOGI MORI picks creators

── So you start with a core creator in mind and then assign others based on compatibility. Is this compatibility based solely on technical skill, or do personal traits also play a part?

We consider both.
On the technical side, everyone has their own specialties. For instance, an illustrator might be great at standalone drawings but struggle with facial expressions. In the same way, a 3D modeler might be great at designing models but struggle with normal mapping. Everyone's got their niche.

── How do you decide who works on what avatar at YOYOGI MORI?

At YOYOGI MORI, the main modeler plays a pivotal role in guiding the visual direction.

We select team members who can bring the modeler's vision to life. If the modeler wants a specific look for normal mapping or for the team to use a specific tool like Substance, we'll narrow down our choices accordingly. Also, we always reach out to each creator individually, explaining why we think they'd be a perfect fit for a particular task.

── How do you gauge the compatibility between creators?

First, we look at their creative direction, especially in how they handle characters. Then, we consider communication skills, personality compatibility, and synergy with other team members.

── To make these decisions, you must be familiar with many creators. How do you know so many?

I myself am both a modeler and an illustrator, which gives me connections across the creator community.
Also, I genuinely enjoy exploring other creators' works and scouting for new talent. I'm always keeping an eye out for potential collaborators, not just when I need someone.

── So, being naturally curious plays a key role in your approach?

YOYOGI MORI doesn't just wing it. We plan ahead, sometimes years in advance.


I always keep in touch with creators who seem like they'd be a good fit. Instead of seeking someone only when I need them, I'm always on the lookout.

── So, building lasting relationships seems to be crucial.

Absolutely. But once we do decide to reach out, we move fast.

For instance, YUE, who designed our avatar Kasuka, was more of a traditional artist.
Although they'd never created visuals for 3D models, I loved their work so much that when we started considering bringing them on board at YOYOGI MORI, I found out they had an art show in Ginza and went straight over.

── When you ask someone to work with you, what's your approach?

First and foremost, I lay out what YOYOGI MORI is about. Whether in an email or in person, I talk about our goals, our approach, and why we want them to join our team.

It's a lot to take in, but most are on board with it.

Also, while YOYOGI MORI operates as a circle, many creators view our invitations as professional opportunities, so we send them detailed proposals including schedules and estimates.

This way, instead of the conversation being just casual chit-chat, the creators we approach can jump right into the specifics, like when they can start.

What does YOYOGI MORI look for in potential collaborators?

── Earlier, you highlighted the importance of setting clear expectations when inviting someone to a project. Are there specific qualities or traits you particularly value in the creators you team up with?

To begin with, simply having the opportunity to work with truly talented individuals who create beautiful pieces is a privilege. We hope to help them shine, and for them to bring their full potential to the table.

But, to be more specific, what we look for is the creator's ability to take a given theme and make it their own in a way that results in something truly unique and innovative. Those who can do this well are worth their weight in gold to us.

On a practical level, seemingly simple acts such as meeting deadlines, honoring commitments, and maintaining open lines of communication make a world of difference in establishing and maintaining partnerships. We see long-term collaboration potential with people who have both these fundamental skills and artistic talent, and we're always excited to begin new avatar-making projects with them.

Behind the scenes with YOYOGI MORI's team

──  Could you provide a specific example of how you manage and operate your team?

I'll use our avatar Mya as an example. We designed her as this girl who loves camping with her friends anywhere and everywhere.

Once we had that idea, we got YY_3dcg (we'll call them YY for short) on board to bring Mya to life as the main modeler. YY and I discussed our favorite artists and the direction we envisioned for the character.

During these sessions, we realized that having someone like Megumi Mizutani (known for her iconic designs in Pokémon) would be a game-changer. So, it became a collaborative project between Mizutani, YY, and me.

── How involved are you in the character creation process?

When it comes to character creation, instead of just leaving everything to Mizutani, we shared specific visions with her, like, "We imagine this design would resonate well," or "We want the viewers to feel this or that way." We fine-tuned these details before bringing our requests to her.

Also, since we wanted to introduce elements related to camping, we brainstormed how these could be brought to life in VRChat and sought out experts in animation to make it happen.
Final touches, from textures to shader tweaks, involve contributions from various team members.

── And what's your role in all this?

While YY leads the team in terms of the model's quality and overall vibe, I also give substantial direction regarding quality.

For instance, I'll give guidance on aspects like adjusting the form or suggesting tweaks in character size and eye placements, especially when it comes to how a character would look in a VR setting. Such detailed discussions play a crucial role in actual character creation.

── It sounds like you give very detailed feedback.

Precisely! Each member brings their expertise to the table, but by consistently sharing feedback and blending ideas, we believe we can create something truly special.

Boosting team performance

── How do you boost the performance of your team?

Beyond our task-focused interactions, we prioritize one-on-one communication with each of our creators.

Everyone has their down days or moments of doubt, wondering if they truly belong. While some can navigate these feelings on their own, others might need a bit more guidance.

That's why we make a point to frequently touch base, ensuring we're always on the same page.

── What topics come up during these one-on-one conversations?

Just saying, "We value you here, please stay," isn't enough to foster a genuine relationship. We emphasize the opportunities for growth, innovation, and learning that come with being a part of YOYOGI MORI.

It's essential that these align with the creator's personal goals; we frequently dive deep, discussing how their career aspirations align with YOYOGI MORI’s broader vision.

── So you really get to know your creators on a personal level.

Exactly. By understanding everyone's unique motivations, we can better match those who want to learn with those eager to mentor. It just works better that way.

── Beyond one-on-one communication, are there other essential factors?

We actively cultivate an environment where all voices and ideas are welcome.

Everyone at YOYOGI MORI is obsessive about quality. We all genuinely desire to create top-notch work and are deeply interested in each other’s tasks. For instance, in 3D modeling, how the texture relates significantly to the modeling process. So, elevating your own part's quality might require giving feedback on another's jobーthat's crucial.

The unique challenges of working as a team

── On the flip side, what are the challenges in maintaining a team-driven production?

Our team is very diverseーwe have housewives, full-time employees, and members not just from Japan but from all over the world.

Ensuring such a varied group works harmoniously requires effort. The real challenge lies not in building the team but in sustaining it.

── Can you give us an example of the kind of effort that's required?

It's about being organized—scheduling meetings thoughtfully and documenting processes to streamline onboarding for new members... We have set guidelines for folder structures, naming files, and even recommended mic setups. We've also defined what quality means at YOYOGI MORI.
We might operate like a circle, but our methods are similar to conventional corporations.

── Sounds like a lot of planning goes into this.

Everyone who joins us isn't martyring themselves to do so. They're here to chase their passions and achieve personal goals. As they chase their passions, they simultaneously contribute to the self-realization of other team members. Balancing these seemingly contrasting dynamics requires meticulous system-building.

By aligning goals and creating clear pathways, we believe in pushing the envelope. It’s an ongoing journey of learning and refining.

The challenges of team building

── I imagine you have to face some challenges as part of running a team. How do you resolve them?

Realistically, no relationship stays perfect without any effort or communication.

There'll always be moments where the team doesn't see eye-to-eye due to a variety of reasons—be it schedules, commitment levels, money, and more. But the trick is to adjust on the go and ensure we keep the communication channels open.

── Ever hit a snag yourself?

Of course. Before YOYOGI MORI, there were situations where unspoken expectations differed between parties, leading to feelings of betrayal. Recognizing and mending those gaps early is essential, though sometimes it's easier said than done.

── What do you do when these misunderstandings come up?

I always aim to stick it out and nurture the relationship. Lately, I've found that completely severing ties is becoming less common, thankfully.

And, even if there's a brief parting, people often come back when the timing feels right. So, I’m careful never to burn bridges entirely.

The key to completing projects as a team

── Creating something as a circle can be tricky without the structure of a company setting. Yet, YOYOGI MORI has consistently pulled it off. What’s your secret to seeing a project through?

It boils down to a few key things: the mindset of each team member, fostering open communication, forming teams based on compatibility, and setting up a supportive environment.

And, not to forget, getting the financial and contractual bits right is crucial to prevent pitfalls.

── Could you elaborate on the financial aspect?

Even in circle activities, revenue is involved. We're upfront about money talk, like what percentage from the avatar sales each creator will get and how much they'll earn for each task. And, most importantly, we stick to our word.

── What about the contractual aspect?

I view contracts as tools to prevent ruining relationships when issues arise.
By having a contract in place from the get-go, you can reduce future disputes caused by differing recollections or interpretations.

── But don't some creators get wary when contracts are mentioned?

Forming a contract isn't a sign of distrust. Challenges arise in every relationship, sometimes years later. And, when that happens, it's too late to draft a contract.

So it's smart to form contracts at the beginning of a relationship or at significant milestones.

YOYOGI MORI's new venture

YOYOGI MORI is launching a new BOOTH shop focused on apparel, called UTSUTSU by YOYOGI MORI.

The inspiration behind this new venture is to enhance the joy of dressing up avatars in outfits suitable for various occasions.
Given the distinctive theme compared to the existing YOYOGI MORI collection, a separate shop has been set up for this clothing brand.

── What's the theme here?

We aim to feature outfits that one would want to wear daily—pieces that, if created in real life, wouldn't appear out of place in a fashion magazine.

Our ongoing YOYOGI MORI virtual wear collection has always been about the combination of avatars and fashion, and that remains unchanged. However, with UTSUTSU, the spotlight is more on the act of changing outfits to suit the occasion.

We're aware that not everyone can easily modify outfits in Blender, so we hope this collection offers a more accessible way for users to change their avatars' looks.

── Did you do anything differently or take on new challenges with this shop?

The most significant shift is that the idea for UTSUTSU came from within our YOYOGI MORI team. Unlike previous initiatives that revolved around me, this time, I've largely entrusted our team members with decision-making and direction.

── It seems like there's a beautiful synergy within your team, considering that you've gone from managing the team to the team coming up with new projects themselves.

Advice for upcoming creators

── Could you share some words of wisdom for budding creators?

Building a team amplifies your strengths. It allows others to complement your weaknesses, enabling you to better showcase what you excel at. Together, you can achieve goals much faster than if you were working alone.

It doesn't always have to be a formal team; even casual connections can ward off feelings of loneliness during tough times.

Having someone by your side or someone you can reach out to without hesitation can make all the difference.

Most importantly, be brave and pursue the path you truly desire.

UTSUTSU by YOYOGI MORI

BOOTH: utsutsu-by-ym.booth.pm
X (formerly Twitter): @utsutsu_by_ym
Instagram: @utsutsu_by_ym

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